Statement from Dan LaCosta

[Kerry]

Why ?

I understand Dans frustration at being owed money and at the awful way he has been treated but why put this all out ? I fully understand fans wanting to help players who have been shafted by Ragan but when it comes down to it , it is not up to the fans to pay iff Ragans debts to players. I know that sounds harsh but what if fans had lost their money through ST's if the club had gone under ? Would other Devils fans have helped these people out ?

Believe me I have been there and done that etc.. with my previous club but there comes to a point where we have to draw a line.

 

[Wannabe2]

If fans want to help then that's up to them, you don't have to follow suit, everyone to there own, no problem.

 

[Have Hope#35]

Why ?

I understand Dans frustration at being owed money and at the awful way he has been treated but why put this all out ? I fully understand fans wanting to help players who have been shafted by Ragan but when it comes down to it , it is not up to the fans to pay iff Ragans debts to players. I know that sounds harsh but what if fans had lost their money through ST's if the club had gone under ? Would other Devils fans have helped these people out ?

Believe me I have been there and done that etc.. with my previous club but there comes to a point where we have to draw a line.

Who's to say that his statement isn't one suggesting that now he's sort legal advise that he feels he'll get his money and to thank the fans for their fundraising etc etc etc! Not necessarily him making a point or airing dirty laundry is it? As for paying off Ragan's debts, if you don't want to then you don't have to... I also believe that if fans did lose their season ticket money then some sort of fundraising would be carried out by fans of the club yeah!

 

[ASHIPP]

Using the words 'issuing a further statement after seeking legal advice' suggests more revelation or statement of intent rather than thanking fans. Or perhaps a perfectly timed reminder that in our euphoria for the future of our club that we should not forget the difficulties of last season? But whilst its appauling that a lot of money might still be owed to some players,these matters now surely should be pursued privately?

RedArmy and fans have already agreed to hold and support fundraising events for the affected players....btw when are the dates for those?

Rumbling in the background it does leave a sour taste in what should be a glorious watershed moment for our club, its new owners, new roster and all the fans.

 

[Have Hope#35]

Using the words 'issuing a further statement after seeking legal advice' suggests more revelation or statement of intent rather than thanking fans. Or perhaps a reminder thatin our euphoria for the future of our club that we should not forget the difficulties of last season? Whilst its appauling that a lot of money might still be owed to some players,these matters now surely should be pursued privately?

RedArmy and fans have already agreed to hold and support fundraising events for the affected players....btw when are the dates for those?

Rumbling in the background it does leave a sour taste in what should be a glorious watershed moment for our club, its new owners, new roster and all the fans.

'Revelation' is finding out that you're going to get your money or that your legally entitled to it! I didn't say that it would just be a thank you... The truth is we don't know and because this has become public knowledge it deserves some sort of closure. (Not just sweeping it under the carpet!)

 

[DevilDom]

I think its right that Dan doesn't let Ragan sweep this under the carpet. If was right to support the under paid players before he sold the club its still right to support them now.

Ragan has had the money from around 500 ST sales upfront and has sold the club for an 'undisclosed sum' so surely he can do the honourable thing and settle up. If not I hope the players pursue every legal avenue open to them to get it.

 

[TommyDevil13]

As you may have seen on Twitter, we will be posting a further statement on Friday. Dan felt it was important to keep fans in the loop about his situation. After all, it is one thing making claims in an initial statement, but another thing to be able to elaborate, and substantiate those claims, when you have had the benefit of specialist advice.

Keep an eye on Twitter on Friday.

Tom

 

[jimmy snels]

Can't help but thinking with all the postives this week we shouldn't be having to listen to any more of last years shit. Dan is owed money by ragan (who is now a known liar and total twat). Im not spending my money tidying his mistake. Dan got a good education here whilst hardly playing, its wrong he wasn't for filled with his contractual obligations but for me it isn't a devils fans issue. I just wish all this left with ragan and let us move on to a brighter future without any negatives

 

[devils2001uk]

Can't help but thinking with all the postives this week we shouldn't be having to listen to any more of last years shit. Dan is owed money by ragan (who is now a known liar and total twat). Im not spending my money tidying his mistake. Dan got a good education here whilst hardly playing, its wrong he wasn't for filled with his contractual obligations but for me it isn't a devils fans issue. I just wish all this left with ragan and let us move on to a brighter future without any negatives

Trouble is dan is owed money by the devils , so if he takes legal action it be vs the devils no matter who owned them


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[Ocko]

No, Dan is owed by Paul Ragan's company. The company is not the Cardiff Devils that is just a logo/image. Todd Kelman has started his own company and purchased the franchise and IP off Ragan. Legally they are now a completely different set of employers with nothing to do with Lacosta.

 

[rogue123]

Can't help but thinking with all the postives this week we shouldn't be having to listen to any more of last years shit. Dan is owed money by ragan (who is now a known liar and total twat). Im not spending my money tidying his mistake. Dan got a good education here whilst hardly playing, its wrong he wasn't for filled with his contractual obligations but for me it isn't a devils fans issue. I just wish all this left with ragan and let us move on to a brighter future without any negatives

You are a piece of work !
You moaned when the ' Militia ' revealed facts about what was really going on with Ragan and The Dope.
You criticise Paul Sullivan.
You constantly say you are not interested in anything that's happening as long as you get to watch an ice hockey match.
Well most of the Real Devils fans DO !
So why don't you practice what you constantly preach and keep your pointless thoughts to yourself and stop criticising people who have morals and try to help players who have been robbed by Ragan. If you don't want to help then you don't have to, nobodies making you ! :RAWK

 

[jimmy snels]

Can't help but thinking with all the postives this week we shouldn't be having to listen to any more of last years shit. Dan is owed money by ragan (who is now a known liar and total twat). Im not spending my money tidying his mistake. Dan got a good education here whilst hardly playing, its wrong he wasn't for filled with his contractual obligations but for me it isn't a devils fans issue. I just wish all this left with ragan and let us move on to a brighter future without any negatives

You are a piece of work !
You moaned when the ' Militia ' revealed facts about what was really going on with Ragan and The Dope.
You criticise Paul Sullivan.
You constantly say you are not interested in anything that's happening as long as you get to watch an ice hockey match.
Well most of the Real Devils fans DO !
So why don't you practice what you constantly preach and keep your pointless thoughts to yourself and stop criticising people who have morals and try to help players who have been robbed by Ragan. If you don't want to help then you don't have to, nobodies making you ! :RAWK

No facts were NEVER GIVEN. When I asked no one EVER said who wasn't paid, or why. It could all have been conjecture for all any of us knew who weren't close to the team. There have been rumours of un paid players almost every year for as long as I can remember.
I criticised paul because he lashed me on here for no reason for years for being too negative, then when he left his position for being too positive culminating in him accusing me of having inside knowledge of the bissonnette signing because im ragans lap dog. Far be it from me to point out how ridiculous that was!!
Im not having a go at anyone for Chipping in for dan, feel free, but for me its a ragan problem. He's stitched him up not us!
Pointless in ypur opinion but im sick of the negatives and would love to move on full of positives. Perhaps I find your views stupid? Discuss the post, not the poster....

 

[rogue123]

Fair comment.
The 'rumours' you mention about players not being paid have always turned out to be true.
When you ask for players to be named, who haven't been paid, surely you understand that it can't be done as any actions they might take would be deemed as breaking confidentiality.
Paul Sullivan, whilst I agree has his own personal agenda with Ragan, was only saying that he would stand outside the rink to protest at the way Ragan was treating players, fans and sponsors and ruining our club and that something had to be done to get rid of Ragan. If people wanted to join him they could but still you attacked him and anybody else who stood outside or voiced any concerns on here. FACT !
If it wasn't for people who stood up to the threats made by Ragan and Dope you wouldn't have a team to watch ! FACT !
I agree with you that it's better to have positive points on here BUT what do you think that the Devils fans trying to raise money to pay players who are owed sends out to the hockey world ???????
POSITIVES !!!!!!!!! :lol:

 

[Sliput]

stop criticising people who have morals and try to help players who have been robbed by Ragan. If you don't want to help then you don't have to, nobodies making you ! :RAWK

It has nothing to do with morals !!!

 

[Finny]

Is it not?

 

[Sliput]

Is it not?

No, its choice. If i had not been paid by my bosses would i expect my customers to chip in to help pay my wages ? Of course not but that doesnt mean that my customers (or Devils fans) do not have morals as they are unwilling to help me. It is my employers job to pay me for the work i have completed not anyone else.


I am not saying people shouldnt give money to help the players , as has been posted , it is their choice but to question the morals of people who choose not to give money is a little silly.

 

[Finny]

I think the point was that jimmy snels didn't want to hear about players not being paid. Which I too think is a pretty poor attitude.

I can understand some people not feeling they should not have to give money to pay the players, but to ask that this information not even be publicised is a bit off IMHO.

 

[James]

Absolutely. I also wouldn't want to think that the players issues were of use when trying to remove Ragan but are no longer important now we have a new owner.

 

[Sliput]

I think the point was that jimmy snels didn't want to hear about players not being paid. Which I too think is a pretty poor attitude.

I can understand some people not feeling they should not have to give money to pay the players, but to ask that this information not even be publicised is a bit off IMHO.

I didnt quote jimmy snels....i was answering rogue123 questioning peoples morals.

 

[Ginnie]

Absolutely. I also wouldn't want to think that the players issues were of use when trying to remove Ragan but are no longer important now we have a new owner.

+1

The non payment of players was headline news some weeks ago and was used to build the case against PR. Absolutely shocking (or telling) that, since the announcement of the takeover, the fans have fallen silent on the subject and in fact appear to be encouraging the silencing of the players too.