Devils vs Vipers, Sat 04th 7.00pm. Chat/Updates
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Kirk was with the Charlotte Checkers in the ECHL for the last couple of seasons but I believe hes a fireman now. It would be nice if his good friend G could persuade him to make a return though 
For me I think the basis of the team is good but where are our key players?? We don't have an out and out scorer or a reliable goalie, you can't expect to be top 3 in this league without them!
For me I think the basis of the team is good but where are our key players?? We don't have an out and out scorer or a reliable goalie, you can't expect to be top 3 in this league without them!
G is wise enough to know what is needed.If the players aren't doing what he tells them to then they will face the consequences.
Hinks looks to me like a player who has carried on for a season too long.He is past his best and sadly should be replaced. Andersson's injury is unfortunate but we can't play a D man short for 16 weeks.The club should sort out his treatment and come to a financial deal with him and say thanks for your services.Teplitsky should be brought in if possible.
Aubry is a solid NM but needs better protection from his defence.Too often they are going walkabout and are out of position.Also they are not clearing the opposition from in front of the net.
It appears that the Voth ban has really got into the team psyche and they seem afraid to play a physical game and this is what the team was built for.
Replace Hinks and Andersson and with Voth back we will be a good side.
Hinks looks to me like a player who has carried on for a season too long.He is past his best and sadly should be replaced. Andersson's injury is unfortunate but we can't play a D man short for 16 weeks.The club should sort out his treatment and come to a financial deal with him and say thanks for your services.Teplitsky should be brought in if possible.
Aubry is a solid NM but needs better protection from his defence.Too often they are going walkabout and are out of position.Also they are not clearing the opposition from in front of the net.
It appears that the Voth ban has really got into the team psyche and they seem afraid to play a physical game and this is what the team was built for.
Replace Hinks and Andersson and with Voth back we will be a good side.
I just don't agree that Aubry is a solid goalie. He is there to be the last line of defence, if the opposition gets past the defence they still have to beat the netminder, and that is happening a little too often for my liking.
In my opinion even a very poor nettie could post fairly reasonable stats with a great defence in front of them. You cannot hide behind a defence and hope they do their job.
People say that when a team plays bad the goalie always gets the blame but sometimes i feel its warranted, I'm not saying our team/defence is perfect because it isn't but you cannot keep saying the defence leave him out to dry without looking at his game and realising the mistakes he makes.
In my opinion even a very poor nettie could post fairly reasonable stats with a great defence in front of them. You cannot hide behind a defence and hope they do their job.
People say that when a team plays bad the goalie always gets the blame but sometimes i feel its warranted, I'm not saying our team/defence is perfect because it isn't but you cannot keep saying the defence leave him out to dry without looking at his game and realising the mistakes he makes.
Aubry has looked far from solid so far, makes you realise what a good NM we had in Osaer the past few seasons. The defence look to have absolutely no confidence in him.
Also Stone looks past it, and Hinks needs to be moved on sooner rather than later.
Pirps, Latulippe and Jarvis battled well all game, it's a shame no other players seemed ready to get involved in the physical battle!
Also Stone looks past it, and Hinks needs to be moved on sooner rather than later.
Pirps, Latulippe and Jarvis battled well all game, it's a shame no other players seemed ready to get involved in the physical battle!
But lets be honest, last night if Jarvis hadnt gifted them a goal would they have scored? Other than when they were on a powerplay newcastle never really troubled us apart from hitting the post in the second period.
For me Jarvis was pretty bad last night, he made that costly error and just tried to persue personal battles. this was highlighted at a time in the third when we were on the penalty kill attempting to get the box formation going and he was to busy cross checking and following the guy near him and we lost our shape. I also feel this carried over to the penalty he took in OT. I actually think he has been decent this season but last night i felt he put himself in front of the team.
Gazza272 said:
With regards to player recruitment, individually i cant see what he didnt get right in the summer. Hinks while being a massive dissapointment boasts the stats and performances during his time with Newcastle of a top line player, for some reason though he's just not getting it done. I do think though that yoru point 1 and 2 are linked and for some reason G isnt getting things right with motivating and crucially for me line mates and defensive partnerships which is causing us to ship to many goals and not score enough.
So basically i would disagree with your first point based on the fact that G like any other coach can only scout and recruit with restrictions, and that individually i think he got a lot of players right and i can see why he signed the players he did even though they arent working out at presnt.
And i'll agree with point 2 that G does need to work doubly hard as a coach to turn things around.
Also yes it is your opinion and i respect it greatly This is just a debate neither of us are wrong here imo.
So basically i would disagree with your first point based on the fact that G like any other coach can only scout and recruit with restrictions, and that individually i think he got a lot of players right and i can see why he signed the players he did even though they arent working out at presnt.
And i'll agree with point 2 that G does need to work doubly hard as a coach to turn things around.
Also yes it is your opinion and i respect it greatly
This is just a debate neither of us are wrong here imo.
I think we can agree to disagree, I sincerely hope i'm wrong and but I can see this season getting away from us. I think we will be looking back next May once again thinking of what might have been. As I said, I hope I am way off the mark and will be the first to hold up my hands if proved wrong.
BTW, given the choice between Hinks and Remps, I would take Rempel every time. But hey thats whats great about opinions.
Ugly Betty said:
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Gazza, I appreciate your reasoned debate. Its good that these things can be debated openly and sensibly without fear of the thought police
I think we can agree to disagree, I sincerely hope i'm wrong and but I can see this season getting away from us. I think we will be looking back next May once again thinking of what might have been. As I said, I hope I am way off the mark and will be the first to hold up my hands if proved wrong.
BTW, given the choice between Hinks and Remps, I would take Rempel every time. But hey thats whats great about opinions.
Gazza, I appreciate your reasoned debate. Its good that these things can be debated openly and sensibly without fear of the thought police
I think we can agree to disagree, I sincerely hope i'm wrong and but I can see this season getting away from us. I think we will be looking back next May once again thinking of what might have been. As I said, I hope I am way off the mark and will be the first to hold up my hands if proved wrong.
BTW, given the choice between Hinks and Remps, I would take Rempel every time. But hey thats whats great about opinions.
If we leave this season emptied handed then i sincerely hope that the good work that has been done off the ice this season has produced enough resources that we go out and really make our intentions felt.
Not that this season should be over looked however, i think that we should be looking to get Tyson back here (wage cap permitting) to also show we are as a club serious abotu getting things put right.
It's a big couple of weeks ahead for our club and in a way im really happy all we have to moan about is whats going on, on the ice
