Fixture change ?
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I wouldn't. There would be so many problems with flying up and especially back that I would have thought a coach would be more sensible.
I know you said £75 return on your earlier post - but I can only assume you have found a cheaper website or not added the taxes because when I used skyscanner (which adds on taxes etc at the start) it would be almost £120 per person. I wasn't able to check if there are enough seats for the whole team as it only lets you book a maximum of 8 people online.
Plus, coming back........ 07:45 flight ?????
You would be looking at getting to airport at the latest 06:45, and more likely 6am. Dundee is more than an hours drive drive from Edinburgh - so you're looking at waking the players up around 4.30am. Unless of course you get a hotel near Edinburgh airport - but then you would have to question whether that would be ideal.
Coming back, there is no doubt in my mind that getting straight back on the coach would be the better option. They can sleep on the coach and would be back home by the time they would around 6am. Straight back to bed and their Saturday game day is hardly affected.
If I was in charge - I would drive them up by coach on the Wed, stay overnight Wed night, play Thursday and drive straight back after the game. Assuming the finances were there to pay for the one nights accomodation obviously.
I know you said £75 return on your earlier post - but I can only assume you have found a cheaper website or not added the taxes because when I used skyscanner (which adds on taxes etc at the start) it would be almost £120 per person. I wasn't able to check if there are enough seats for the whole team as it only lets you book a maximum of 8 people online.
Plus, coming back........ 07:45 flight ?????
You would be looking at getting to airport at the latest 06:45, and more likely 6am. Dundee is more than an hours drive drive from Edinburgh - so you're looking at waking the players up around 4.30am. Unless of course you get a hotel near Edinburgh airport - but then you would have to question whether that would be ideal.
Coming back, there is no doubt in my mind that getting straight back on the coach would be the better option. They can sleep on the coach and would be back home by the time they would around 6am. Straight back to bed and their Saturday game day is hardly affected.
If I was in charge - I would drive them up by coach on the Wed, stay overnight Wed night, play Thursday and drive straight back after the game. Assuming the finances were there to pay for the one nights accomodation obviously.
Finny, in that case, thank god the decisions not up to you. It would appear we have different opinions on most things, so let me comment on your previous post. As I travel quite a bit, I checked and doubled checked the flight prices when I posted. Firstly, when I originally quoted £75.00 return, that included all taxes and there were plenty of seats available. Also, discounts are offered for party bookings so that would have reduced the cost if they had been booked at that time. So please don't make assuptions that I hadn't included for taxes etc.
Secondly, you seem surprised at flying at 7.45 am, horror upon horrors! The players would have to be at the airport for 6.45 am! How difficult would that be if you are staying at an airport hotel ?? You wouldn't be driving from Dundee as you have stated. Anyone with any sense would drive to Edinburgh after the game itself in order to be closer to the airport, so thats another misconception on your part ( no drive from Aberdeen early morning) By flying, they would be back in Cardiff with plenty of time to go home. sleep, be refreshed and prepared for what is sure to be a huge game. I would add that all kit to be taken up seperately so as not to incur baggage charges.
Yes, players can sleep on a coach, just how comfortable they would be in single seats for a 12 hour journey is hugely debatable. You say you would drive up on the Wednesday, stay overnight and drive back immediately after the game if hotel expenses were there to pay for it ! What you are proposing is not beneficial to our players welfare at all. We are putting a huge amount of emphasis on the Panthers game, yet what you are suggesting will not help our players prepare for this game as they could and should ! As always you will disagree with what I have written, so please do not expect me to reply further.
Secondly, you seem surprised at flying at 7.45 am, horror upon horrors! The players would have to be at the airport for 6.45 am! How difficult would that be if you are staying at an airport hotel ?? You wouldn't be driving from Dundee as you have stated. Anyone with any sense would drive to Edinburgh after the game itself in order to be closer to the airport, so thats another misconception on your part ( no drive from Aberdeen early morning) By flying, they would be back in Cardiff with plenty of time to go home. sleep, be refreshed and prepared for what is sure to be a huge game. I would add that all kit to be taken up seperately so as not to incur baggage charges.
Yes, players can sleep on a coach, just how comfortable they would be in single seats for a 12 hour journey is hugely debatable. You say you would drive up on the Wednesday, stay overnight and drive back immediately after the game if hotel expenses were there to pay for it ! What you are proposing is not beneficial to our players welfare at all. We are putting a huge amount of emphasis on the Panthers game, yet what you are suggesting will not help our players prepare for this game as they could and should ! As always you will disagree with what I have written, so please do not expect me to reply further.
No... I do care. If the Devils want to have any chance of getting into the CC semis - which is probably the only trophy they have a good chance at - they should boycott the Dundee game. They can make up points later. They wont win the league but they'll still be in a very good position for the play offs.
Whilst I agree with the sentiment its too often that "we are dealt a bad hand" and its too often that we have to accept it and get on with it.
Can you imagine this happening to the Panthers, Steelers, Blaze or Giants? No it just wouldn't happen.
This is the most blatant attempt to manipulate results that I have experienced since following Hockey and it absolutely stinks.
I really hope we stuff the Panthers out of site in this game - eliminating the steelers and making the Panthers finish 2nd in the group and probably have to play the Giants. Unfortunately this is now not unlikely to happen. I think the best we can hope for now is to somehow hold on for a draw and scrape through.
Can you imagine this happening to the Panthers, Steelers, Blaze or Giants? No it just wouldn't happen.
This is the most blatant attempt to manipulate results that I have experienced since following Hockey and it absolutely stinks.
I really hope we stuff the Panthers out of site in this game - eliminating the steelers and making the Panthers finish 2nd in the group and probably have to play the Giants. Unfortunately this is now not unlikely to happen. I think the best we can hope for now is to somehow hold on for a draw and scrape through.
Who says we can't win the league?
We are 6 points off the top spot with 3 games in hand. The top teams will now start playing each other most weekends and so points will be dropped.
We on the other hand have already played lots of games against the top teams, and are in the middle of a run of games we should be winning.
We are 6 points off the top spot with 3 games in hand. The top teams will now start playing each other most weekends and so points will be dropped.
We on the other hand have already played lots of games against the top teams, and are in the middle of a run of games we should be winning.
I don't think Mr Ragan would be where he is today without being a pretty canny guy to deal with. I think with the league and the rink there are a number of battles ongoing, and he needs to pick his moment; this just may not be the right one. If he kicks off about everything, the people he is complaining to / trying to work with will soon stop taking any nuisance.
It will be interesting to see what unfurls from the office during the season.
It will be interesting to see what unfurls from the office during the season.