Devils v Blaze - 12/12 - 7:00pm - Chat/Updates

drainage

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ledgend777 said:
I really don't want to stick up for blazeatrail after that awful post, and I can see why we're laughing at him / her after they got beat by Steelers ;) but surely that result reflects badly on us for losing at home to a team who then lost to a poor Steelers team. Plus, I'll reserve my laughing at Blaze until we're above them and on the same amount of games as they will probably win a couple of those games in hand meaning they could be 10+ points above us :(
I think you will find we are laughing at someone being so smug then losing to the Steelers ......no one is suggesting we shouldnt have beaten Blaze (especially as the Steelers managed it)
 

James

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ledgend777 said:
I really don't want to stick up for blazeatrail after that awful post, and I can see why we're laughing at him / her after they got beat by Steelers ;) but surely that result reflects badly on us for losing at home to a team who then lost to a poor Steelers team. Plus, I'll reserve my laughing at Blaze until we're above them and on the same amount of games as they will probably win a couple of those games in hand meaning they could be 10+ points above us :(
Not really. They were already short benched on sat. I assume Campbell missed the game last night so that puts them another down. It was a tough game saturday for them so they were probably knackered. That and there is a lot of talent in Sheffield, if they can only get it right.
 
HockeyWarrior said:
I was stood on the ground floor next to blaze bench and i can honestly say that the abuse dished out at campbell, was just cause considering his conduct on the ice whilst voth was incapacitated.
Also i think people are being a bit hard on the boys after voth went down cos Scotty Romfo was going nuts punching and shoving at anyone in his way as well as the other lads who were all jarring at opposing players, the officials did not impose their authority enough, which was poor because as mentioned in previous posts Voth could have been seriously injured and if it were the case their would have been a lot of heads rolling over the poor conduct in general from blaze players and officials...... Id also pass comment on what the officials do when the shoe is on the other foot, I think this attitude has developed through fear and poor judgement... IMO I think Voth has long established himself as an invincible and intimidating prescence and so when he is dishing it out its like the refs expect it from him and throw the book at him, but in the rare occasions when Voth is in danger they dont protect him becuase he is kind of too tought to be protected (not saying this is right just stating what i think) so overall i concur with the general feeling of everyone, the refs in this league are useless, this is a physical game played with raw emotion and when the **** hits the fan refs should be there to take on anything, and they just dont fit the bill they should treat each player with equal contempt in respect of penalty awarding and they should express an equal duty of care on every player that competes tough guy or not cos they are all human all feel pain and all bleed.... Just wanna say that Campbell is a poor sportsman, a decent player but not a professional, when he was escorted off the ice a fan called him a pussy and he went for the fan........ Campbell you do not bite the hand which feeds you and if you went for me i would have slapped you in your ugly head, the reason i say this is because the fans are the customers and whatever they say they are not athletes and they are not targets to scrimmage with, so if i was campbell i would be reviewing my conduct with fans in the future.... anyway enough about that fairplay to Voth his nose was in bits (probably broke) and there was blood pouring but he got up and took campbell on if the fight occured without voth getting sucker punched after taking a big knock he would have destroyed him, heart of a warrior!! good effort Vother!!! :D :D :D
Are you for real what gives any fan the right to abuse a player verbally or physically for that players actions on the ice, NONE at all. and yes i'm sure :roll: you would have slapped him, obviously you would then be rightly banned from ever attending a hockey match again. Jeez get some perspective people :evil:
 

ASHIPP

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the placid casual said:
rolf said:
i am absolutely livid here. vother was x checked by stewart into the nets and then campbell cross-checks him face down into the ice before diving onto him to continue his cowardly assault assistd by the moron known as stewart. some how a lino covers voths head which effectively keeps him pinned to the ice allowing campbell to then throw as many punches to vothers exposed kidney area as he fancied. by my count he got about 8 good bare knuckle shots in there which is a clear indication of a deliberate attempt to injure. it happened right in front of me so i saw the whole sorry affair from far too close.......

then the penalties, 2+2+2 for x-checking earlier in the night called on cardiff #26 duh?? if the penalty is greater than 2+2 doesn't that begat a 5 min major ? then he gets 2 mins for instigating + match for fighting. surely then brad could have sat for 2 mins, then played on the rest of the game before being suspended for the next match?

i am fast beginning to believe that there is some kind of conspiracy here and that is a worry
The thing is these cowards which are the Blaze players can only hit the big man when he is down (disgusting) they wouldn't try it on face to face with Voth because we all know what would happen can't wait untill boxing day now.
And what a match that will be! :twisted: To hit ANY player when he is down is a grossly cowardly thing to do. I thought the ref's call against Brad was completely disgraceful. Cross checking and then hitting an injured man whilst down surely deserves immediate game and then match penalty. Campbell should have been escorted to the locker room before Brad even got up from the ice. Why did the ref allow Campbell to come back out and fight with Brad, thus getting the Vother a match penalty too? Ref had absolutely no authority/control over that situation.
As for the other players standing back, in fairness to Scotty (Romfo) he was straight in to try and pull Blaze players off. Maybe our guys were under orders not to instigate mass interference in case of any more penalties?
:?
 
Gaz G said:
Is there any footage anywhere of what happened on sat? I couldn't make the game and am quite keen to see for myself what happened.
Devils TV definately got some good footage of it from the camera above the goal. They showed the incident once and it gave me a much better view of what happened.

It'll be interesting to see when this is released as Campbell's actions are under league review. It may be that the club waits for a decision to be made before releasing the footage.

On another note,the club are appealing Voth's match penalty (see link below). It suggests that there will be a decision on this before wednesday, so we could see some footage sooner rather than later.

http://www.walesonline.co.uk/sports/ice ... -25383504/
 

James

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Looking at the fight footage, Thompson went nowhere near it till the very end. Not sure how he could have told them to stop fighting enough to call a match penalty.
 

ASHIPP

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Well let's hope that the 'powers that be' are on the Devils' side this time and Brad's penalty is dropped. Disgraceful control of that situation on Saturday. I can totally understand that a player can only take physical abuse for so long and let it drop (and Brad had skated away so many times after being punched and checked this season, it's unreal), but if Campbell had been dispensed with well and truly before Brad got up, there would never have been an opportunity to fight and therefore match ban. :twisted:
As for the Blaze fans - their behaviour was totally unacceptable. Like a pack of baying wolves getting high on the fact that one of their players had floored the Vother. Never mind that it was done in the most cowardly vicious way. How could they applaud Campbell like it was some sort of victory? If you're going to fight, at least be a man about it and do it face to face. :twisted:
 

Finny

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jester said:
Are you for real what gives any fan the right to abuse a player verbally or physically for that players actions on the ice, NONE at all. and yes i'm sure :roll: you would have slapped him, obviously you would then be rightly banned from ever attending a hockey match again. Jeez get some perspective people :evil:
And what gives the player the right to go for a fan?
If Campbell went for me I would give him a slap back myself.
 

Finny

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James said:
Looking at the fight footage, Thompson went nowhere near it till the very end. Not sure how he could have told them to stop fighting enough to call a match penalty.
Where is this footage??
 
Finny said:
jester said:
Are you for real what gives any fan the right to abuse a player verbally or physically for that players actions on the ice, NONE at all. and yes i'm sure :roll: you would have slapped him, obviously you would then be rightly banned from ever attending a hockey match again. Jeez get some perspective people :evil:
And what gives the player the right to go for a fan?
If Campbell went for me I would give him a slap back myself.
Nothing gives a player the right to go for a fan either (unless it was to defend themselves) and i never said it did, however some people seem to think its ok to verbally abuse sportsmen/women and not be held responsible for their actions which i find quite pathetic ala the moron in Belfast who went for the ref.
 

Rempel16

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I thought the match penalty on Voth was actually the right call, as technically the referee's whistle is the signal to stop.

That was blown when it all kicked off by the cowardly disgrace that is Campbell (He was bricking it in that toe-to-toe fight).

Voth wished to fight once he had gotten to his feet, long after the whistle was blown so his match is about right.

In the context of the game, he did the right thing, that fight needed to happen. However, Voth was white as a sheet and clearly not all with it, so from a h+s point of view he probably shouldn't have been willing to take blows to the head.

Campbell really got to me though. The guy merely tried to tie Brad up in the fight, while Voth battered him, so he still hasn't fought fair. A part of me hopes he is playing on boxing day, but either way I hope Vother runs Hirsch and all the guys pick a partner and pummel them.

Don't get me started on the Blaze fans, absolute DISGRACE!!!! :evil:
 
Rempel16 said:
Campbell really got to me though. The guy merely tried to tie Brad up in the fight, while Voth battered him, so he still hasn't fought fair. A part of me hopes he is playing on boxing day, but either way I hope Vother runs Hirsch and all the guys pick a partner and pummel them.

Don't get me started on the Blaze fans, absolute DISGRACE!!!! :evil:

so you want our boys to jump the Blaze players even though you were agaisnt what Campbell did to Voth?

i would like Voth to go Toe to Toe with Campbell again and destroy him in a FAIR fight, not jumping him or anyone else.

i dont agree with running the keeper either, because that is not part of the game. Beat him with the puck and get the 2 points,
 
nmase20 said:
no where does he mention jumping anyone, he wants them to fight by the way i understand it exactly like you said :?
it says that he wants them to just pemmel them, my understanding means to just fight them and by the running the goalie comment then it seems to me he means to just jump them really?
 

Gazza272

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We will be appealing to Elite League,” said Devils’ bench coach Neil Francis.

“Clearly, we were not happy with some decisions, but we won’t make any comment until league officials have reviewed the video.”

Cracking quote by Franny, thats exactly the sort of thing that should be said when matters like this happen, not everyone and their nanny from clubs (Edinburgh spring to mind lately) Asking for retrebution. Top job!
 

Rempel16

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Cookies_naughtyboy said:
Rempel16 said:
Campbell really got to me though. The guy merely tried to tie Brad up in the fight, while Voth battered him, so he still hasn't fought fair. A part of me hopes he is playing on boxing day, but either way I hope Vother runs Hirsch and all the guys pick a partner and pummel them.

Don't get me started on the Blaze fans, absolute DISGRACE!!!! :evil:

so you want our boys to jump the Blaze players even though you were agaisnt what Campbell did to Voth?

i would like Voth to go Toe to Toe with Campbell again and destroy him in a FAIR fight, not jumping him or anyone else.

i dont agree with running the keeper either, because that is not part of the game. Beat him with the puck and get the 2 points,
I don't want them to jump the Blaze players, simply 'no-choice' them! I mean it in the exact context that Adams did to Bruce Richardson.

As for running the goalie, damn right. If Hirsch is tough enough to punch a guy lying prone on the ice he should be tough enough to take a hit when he leaves his crease! (It is legal after all)

And out of interest, why is running the goalie not part of the game?
 
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