Signings and Departures - Cardiff Devils 2011/12
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Matzka returns
http://www.cardiffdevils.com/news/matzkas-back/
There is another thread talking about this.
http://www.cardiffdevils.com/news/matzkas-back/
There is another thread talking about this.
Just read trough the last few pages of this thread.
Did you say that Eurpoeans are classed as imports? How does that work with European Legislation and restraint of trade laws for all European Passport holders. All other sports have to adhere to this law, including some sports that have Kolpac agreements with developing nations (strangely like South Africa and cricket and Rugby and South See Islands).
How does a European class as an import and fly in the face of Euro law?
Did you say that Eurpoeans are classed as imports? How does that work with European Legislation and restraint of trade laws for all European Passport holders. All other sports have to adhere to this law, including some sports that have Kolpac agreements with developing nations (strangely like South Africa and cricket and Rugby and South See Islands).
How does a European class as an import and fly in the face of Euro law?
There is no rule about a players nationality when it comes to imports, it is only based on where the player was trained.
So you could have a team full of players born outside the UK providing they were trained as a youth for the required number of years in the UK. I think the requirement is 3 years.
So you could have a team full of players born outside the UK providing they were trained as a youth for the required number of years in the UK. I think the requirement is 3 years.
Basically, because no one has challenged it yet.
At present we are abiding by the rules set down by the sport governing body - however as has been seen in most other sports (cricket most notably), although the governing body is trying to restrict foreign players coming in (usually for the benefit of the sport), legally they cannot do so within the EEA.
At present we are abiding by the rules set down by the sport governing body - however as has been seen in most other sports (cricket most notably), although the governing body is trying to restrict foreign players coming in (usually for the benefit of the sport), legally they cannot do so within the EEA.
Yes besically exactly that, we have this every year and as I understand it, yes if a team decided to sign 11 or more imports and to play them all the league probably wouldnt have a leg to stand in in EU law, however that would also bring about such a diference top to bottom in the quality in the league that it would implode, therefore the teams agree not to do it.
Its the same in my view as the wage cap, impossible to enforce in law however, even though it doesnt look like it, all teams do currently keep within wage guidelines to a degree. If they didnt the spending of a few teams (Panthers and Giants particularly) could go much higher than they do now.
However, again if they did this it would pull the league apart, so essentially both these "rules" are just that "League rules", not laws, not enforcable, but without them the league would destroy itself.
Its the same in my view as the wage cap, impossible to enforce in law however, even though it doesnt look like it, all teams do currently keep within wage guidelines to a degree. If they didnt the spending of a few teams (Panthers and Giants particularly) could go much higher than they do now.
However, again if they did this it would pull the league apart, so essentially both these "rules" are just that "League rules", not laws, not enforcable, but without them the league would destroy itself.
You can employ as many of them as you like. There is no limit to the number of imports you can sign. You can only play 10 of them in one night, that's a league ruling and nothing to do with EU law. The way it used to be was illegal (could only have X imports), the way it is now is questionable but I don't think it actually breaks the law.
No it is not illegal. EU Employment Law refers to the players nationality - there is no mention of a players nationality when referring to an "import" in the EIHL - even if they fans think there is.
UEFA now has the same rule in football which is why the top clubs are trying to sign lots of young players regardless of nationality so they will qualify as being 'home-grown'.
UEFA now has the same rule in football which is why the top clubs are trying to sign lots of young players regardless of nationality so they will qualify as being 'home-grown'.
Even if you bought 11+ EU imports, remember they would have exactly the same rights as British players (who are also EU players) and we regularly sign them but don't play them because of better North Americans, if the Brits cant claim restraint of trade under EU law, why should any other player with an EU passport (and they are often Canadian anyway).
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