Covid Pass

[Mazzoak]

I like your idea but I'd also add they are removed from the game and no refund will be issued unless they can provide a valid exemption from a registered gp.

An email or press statement should also be sent informing everyone before implementing, allowing anyone with a valid excuse can pre log it. If then anyone asked to present their ticket refuses, I’d then have them removed.
You could even remove the need to ask for a ticket by the seat number allocated to individual.

 

[Mazzoak]

Until there is a law saying you need a GP signed exemption form it's pointless.

Not really, the management reserve the right to refuse access to anyone. If anyone has an issue providing evidence of a medical condition, simple, you can’t attend games. It’s really that easy, it will likely offend some, what’s losing a few £’s to ensuring the safety of others.....

 

[Kevlar68]

You are right yes but there is no welsh or uk law for this so you can't implement it within your business. There are all sorts of legal issues trying to enforce showing evidence of medical issues. I think it's the way forward but can't be done on a legal basis.

 

[Mazzoak]

You are right yes but there is no welsh or uk law for this so you can't implement it within your business. There are all sorts of legal issues trying to enforce showing evidence of medical issues. I think it's the way forward but can't be done on a legal basis.

You have the right to refuse entry to anyone, that’s the law, it doesn’t have to be specific. If your business has carried out a risk assessment stating that face masks are required, that is reason enough to refuse entry, even to except people can be refused as they pose a health risk. There is no legal right to demand or ask for proof, everyone has the right to refuse. That again is simple, you refuse, you don’t get in. Letters from Doctors can be obtained easily or proof of medication for that individual can be shown if the person wishes to see a game.

It’s that simple, nobody has a legal right to watch hockey, refusing entry isn’t breaking any laws.

 

[Kevlar68]

It's not the refusing, I've run bars. Clubs and hospitality at WNIR, its the showing of medical proof is the issue.
You got idiots kicking off about covid passports can you imagine if you needed GP notes.

 

[Mazzoak]

It's not the refusing, I've run bars. Clubs and hospitality at WNIR its the showing of medical proof is the issue.

Like l said you can’t demand proof be provided, you simply tell people that if they don’t wish to show evidence they won’t be watching hockey.

You have to make employers aware of your medical status if it affects your employment. The business I’m in sometimes requires employees visit Nursing Homes, next week the law requires any businesses employees visiting a Nursing Home has to be up to date with their Covid Vaccines. Any employees not vaccinated won’t be allowed into the premises, so we’ve had to ask employees to either provide their vaccine status or if their not vaccinated or refuse won’t be going to any establishments covered by the new rules. No staff will be forced to have a vaccine or lose their jobs, it’s just establishing who poses a risk and to comply with the law by sending staff correctly.

Its that simple.

 

[Kevlar68]

Don't think that would be a good PR move for the arena if i'm being honest.
I get where your coming from but with social media being the way it is can you imagine the fallout even though we're only trying to keep people safe.

 

[pjj365]

You have the right to refuse entry to anyone, that’s the law, it doesn’t have to be specific. If your business has carried out a risk assessment stating that face masks are required, that is reason enough to refuse entry, even to except people can be refused as they pose a health risk. There is no legal right to demand or ask for proof, everyone has the right to refuse. That again is simple, you refuse, you don’t get in. Letters from Doctors can be obtained easily or proof of medication for that individual can be shown if the person wishes to see a game.

It’s that simple, nobody has a legal right to watch hockey, refusing entry isn’t breaking any laws.

Wearing masks is not part of a risk assessment - it is a legal requirement. Hence the fact if the club don't get it right it can be shut down

 

[terry hunt]

Watch the very uncomfortable Drakeford getting grilled on GMB by Richard Medley, he starts mocking the stupidity and easy of cheating the system at 3.39.

You dont actually watch Madeley do you he is the worst gutter presenter on TV.He is just another sad old toyboy pretending he has got balls and trying to get Piers Morgan's agitator job.Most politicians wont go on his show.
This is the channel that told english second home owners to ignore welsh law and go on holiday in Wales when we were in lockdown.

 

[Mazzoak]

You dont actually watch Madeley do you he is the worst gutter presenter on TV.He is just another sad old toyboy pretending he has got balls and trying to get Piers Morgan's agitator job.Most politicians wont go on his show.
This is the channel that told english second home owners to ignore welsh law and go on holiday in Wales when we were in lockdown.

It’s also the channel that made our leader look like the stupid t88t he is.....

 

[ASHIPP]

This may sound naive.. but can't a document be handed to each and every ticket holder going through the doors at each game with the Clubs Covid policy simply listed. Security guys checking tickets can tell people they must read and comply the mask wearing procedures and the consequences of not complying. This Covid policy document could be an important attachment to every online ticket purchase... and printed off with any paper tickets bought at reception. Is this too simple?

 

[terry hunt]

If people want the Devils shut down carry on with this .At least try and be a bit more subtle.
The hardline element must be dealt with i agree.Atherton is already talking about severe measures as a result of last weeks Cardiff centre chaos.Most of the trouble i suspect was caused by outsiders travelling to Wales reproducing what happens in London every weekend.
So called penniless students and young people who believe they are immune from Covid.Which was brought about by the great English leaders /comedy act Boris and Dominic.

 

[Kevlar68]

or as part of the terms and conditions of buying a ticket include compulsory wearing of masks with no exemptions or will be escorted from the building.
You have to tick a box saying you've read terms and condition so if they haven't they breach the terms and conditions they agreed to.

 

[coedduon]

It’s also the channel that made our leader look like the stupid t88t he is.....

Everything is relative........

 

[matbur]

The problem is people are using the "exception excuse" we had oen in our block who came in wearing a mask then took it off and when challenged by a steward he pulled a Google document up about being exempt.

If you are exempt from a facemask, then wear a visor. I don't get why this isn't enforced. Why should we be at risk of someone because they are 'exempt'.

Don't get me wrong, I am sure there are people who genuinely cannot where a mask and feel uncomfortable about not being able to do so, but not all these people in the arena arena are 'exempt'. It's just selfish and disrespectful.

 

[Mazzoak]

Everything is relative........

So having two t8ats is something to be proud of, or the Welsh t8at isn’t as much of a t8at as the English one, who is also in charge of Wales. So your point is Welsh people support 2 t8ats. If that wasn’t depressing it would be hilarious. I wouldn’t boast about it though........

 

[Dropthepuck]

Question.... does anyone know if you need a covid pass to get into Braehead arena?

 

[Kevlar68]

I would check Scot gov. Covid rules.

 

[JT666]

With regards to the masks, it strikes me as a nonsense you can remove them when having a drink at the arena. Obviously you need to remove a mask to drink, but given booze is usually a big cause of crowd issues at sporting events, let alone likely to result in transmission of spit from the person drinking the pint, then surely, if masks are so essential, drinks should be reserved for the bar area alone?

That way if someone wants a drink they make a choice to drink it in a set area (at their own risk), leaving no excuse not to wear a mask in the main part of the arena. I appreciate not all drinks are alcoholic at sporting events, but even drinking a Coke or a cup of tea at an event sans mask doesn't make any sense when it comes to COVID transmission.

In terms of mask exemption, maybe some kind of big red Devils sticker saying "I'm exempt from wearing a mask" on receipt of a genuine letter of exemption at the gate will assist the stewards. Anyone not wearing a sticker, and not wearing a mask, will be asked to leave the arena if they don't put their mask on. They will also be saved being confronted by stewards or irate members of the crowd taking it upon themselves to police the wearing of masks.

I personally can't wait until we return to normality, if that ever happens, and I appreciate life is full of risks and would be boring if we listened to everything politicians said was good for us, however in terms of COVID, I'd be happy to sacrifice some freedoms if it results in the arena staying open.

 

[osh]

With regards to the masks, it strikes me as a nonsense you can remove them when having a drink at the arena. Obviously you need to remove a mask to drink, but given booze is usually a big cause of crowd issues at sporting events, let alone likely to result in transmission of spit from the person drinking the pint, then surely, if masks are so essential, drinks should be reserved for the bar area alone?

That way if someone wants a drink they make a choice to drink it in a set area (at their own risk), leaving no excuse not to wear a mask in the main part of the arena. I appreciate not all drinks are alcoholic at sporting events, but even drinking a Coke or a cup of tea at an event sans mask doesn't make any sense when it comes to COVID transmission.

In terms of mask exemption, maybe some kind of big red Devils sticker saying "I'm exempt from wearing a mask" on receipt of a genuine letter of exemption at the gate will assist the stewards. Anyone not wearing a sticker, and not wearing a mask, will be asked to leave the arena if they don't put their mask on. I realise this could all be construed as a bit Star of David on the Jews in Nazi Germany, but in this instance we aren't trying to shame those wearing a sticker, and they will also be saved being confronted by stewards or irate members of the crowd taking it upon themselves to police the wearing of masks.

I personally can't wait until we return to normality, if that ever happens, and I appreciate life is full of risks and would be boring if we listened to everything politicians said was good for us, however in terms of COVID, I'd be happy to sacrifice some freedoms if it results in the arena staying open.

not at all impressed with your comment re ‘Star of David’ etc. totally ridiculous and out of order.