Cardiff Devils Release...
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I heard that Hill had been dropped to the 4th line for the Caps game up there, and CJ and Piggot getting his minutes. If that wasn't a warning shot, I don't know what is.
I'm actually pleased that we've made a move like this - although I'm shocked at the speed. Too me this smells of a hockey decision and hopefully we'll see another import, G on the bench and the young Brits taking the minutes that they've earned.
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I'm actually pleased that we've made a move like this - although I'm shocked at the speed. Too me this smells of a hockey decision and hopefully we'll see another import, G on the bench and the young Brits taking the minutes that they've earned.
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mazza03 said:
Wow I didn't see that coming I know Phil hasn't played as well as he should but I'm quite surprised, Good luck Phil wherever you go. 
I feel for Phil. He’s been a real servant to the club for many years now and this is not how I would have imagined he’d depart from the club. His performances at home the last 12 months have appeared average but when you look at his stats it shows there is a contribution. Ironically I think he performs better away from home. Ironic in he’s not the quickest of guys and therefore you’d think he’d struggle on big ice.
I don’t think Phil has been the same player since his line mate, Voth, left the club. He comes across a yard of the pace and he hits have turned into pushes. He goes very unnoticed in a position which you have to be noticed.
Phil is a 40-50 point a season Brit. He’s the 4th highest scoring player on this year’s team so far and joint highest Brit with 9 points in 12 starts (2G and 7A). However, when you watch him he doesn’t come across as energetic as the other Brits. I don’t think the younger Brits in our team will hit the points margin that Phil will and that is a problem for us now in releasing him. That said it’s a financial balance. These guys are not earning what Phil does.
Similar principle applies to our current highest point scoring player/import who on performances at home has looked the shadow of himself. Do you question the role of a guy who has scored 16 points in 12 games (2G and 14A)? Interesting stuff.
Gerad would not have taken this decision likely but there is huge pressure on him at the moment. I think in the interest of his own job and the team as a whole he has to be seen to make tough decisions and cutting one of your ‘top’ Brits is just that. If Gerad is moving to the bench then that move alone doesn’t release finances to bring in another import so another change was needed. Phil unfortunately is that change.
Phil is known for his hard work off the ice, particularly during the off season. I don’t think he’ll have a problem finding another club. All the very best to him.
I don’t think Phil has been the same player since his line mate, Voth, left the club. He comes across a yard of the pace and he hits have turned into pushes. He goes very unnoticed in a position which you have to be noticed.
Phil is a 40-50 point a season Brit. He’s the 4th highest scoring player on this year’s team so far and joint highest Brit with 9 points in 12 starts (2G and 7A). However, when you watch him he doesn’t come across as energetic as the other Brits. I don’t think the younger Brits in our team will hit the points margin that Phil will and that is a problem for us now in releasing him. That said it’s a financial balance. These guys are not earning what Phil does.
Similar principle applies to our current highest point scoring player/import who on performances at home has looked the shadow of himself. Do you question the role of a guy who has scored 16 points in 12 games (2G and 14A)? Interesting stuff.
Gerad would not have taken this decision likely but there is huge pressure on him at the moment. I think in the interest of his own job and the team as a whole he has to be seen to make tough decisions and cutting one of your ‘top’ Brits is just that. If Gerad is moving to the bench then that move alone doesn’t release finances to bring in another import so another change was needed. Phil unfortunately is that change.
Phil is known for his hard work off the ice, particularly during the off season. I don’t think he’ll have a problem finding another club. All the very best to him.
mazza03 said:
Wow I didn't see that coming I know Phil hasn't played as well as he should but I'm quite surprised, Good luck Phil wherever you go.
jodysstillagirlsname said:
mazza03 said:
Wow I didn't see that coming I know Phil hasn't played as well as he should but I'm quite surprised, Good luck Phil wherever you go.
I wasn't that big a Phil Hill fan at the start but after returning from Sheffield he changed his game and become a totally different player. Because of his size people expected him to be a power-forward but that was never his style. Based on what opposition fans have said about him he must have been a nightmare to play against and for several seasons nobody seemed to score more big, game-changing goals when we needed it.
A big thanks to Phil for all he has done for the club and best wishes for the future. Although obviously not when he plays against us.
The decision to release Phil was not the coaches and was a management decision 100%.
This will be the first of many shocking decisions by the muppet's running this club. I hope they have a 50 plus point a year Brit up there sleeve but doubt it very much. No disrespect to CJ, Quinney, Batch, Piggot and possibly Ben but they wont retrun the points that Phil has done on a regular basis. Certainly a big pair of skates to fill whatever your opinion.
I for one wish Phil all the best for the future, where ever he ends up.
This will be the first of many shocking decisions by the muppet's running this club. I hope they have a 50 plus point a year Brit up there sleeve but doubt it very much. No disrespect to CJ, Quinney, Batch, Piggot and possibly Ben but they wont retrun the points that Phil has done on a regular basis. Certainly a big pair of skates to fill whatever your opinion.
I for one wish Phil all the best for the future, where ever he ends up.
Sorry, put this in the wrong topic section, meant to put it here.
Re: I'm hearing
Well, changes had to be made, and I suppose some will say G has acted very quickly bearing in mind we have already gassed Ross as well. Hilly has served the Devils very well over the years and we are indebted to him for some excellent points return as a Brit. I'm actually surprised he has been gassed, but then again, I don't know why or what financial implications are involved. I certainly wish him luck in his future and no doubt he will come back to haunt us at some stage. I certainly think he needs to analyse his game and make a few important changes. Maybe he should spend a bit of time with Joe Calzaghe's dad ( or someone like him ) and learn how to throw a few punches now and again. He is big enough to step in at times, but he won't defend others because he can hardly look after himself in that department. I thought his time away pre season would have meant he came back sharp and ready to go, his performances unfortunately have shown him to be leg weary and off the pace. If we are to bring in an import replacement ( assuming G needs to be on the bench because it's not working for Franny in my opinion ) I would hope we bring in a D man and not a replacement forward. We must utilise our remaining Brits to step up in Hilly's position and a new D man to bolster our present sieve like defence in order to offer decent protection to LaCosta.
Re: I'm hearing
Well, changes had to be made, and I suppose some will say G has acted very quickly bearing in mind we have already gassed Ross as well. Hilly has served the Devils very well over the years and we are indebted to him for some excellent points return as a Brit. I'm actually surprised he has been gassed, but then again, I don't know why or what financial implications are involved. I certainly wish him luck in his future and no doubt he will come back to haunt us at some stage. I certainly think he needs to analyse his game and make a few important changes. Maybe he should spend a bit of time with Joe Calzaghe's dad ( or someone like him ) and learn how to throw a few punches now and again. He is big enough to step in at times, but he won't defend others because he can hardly look after himself in that department. I thought his time away pre season would have meant he came back sharp and ready to go, his performances unfortunately have shown him to be leg weary and off the pace. If we are to bring in an import replacement ( assuming G needs to be on the bench because it's not working for Franny in my opinion ) I would hope we bring in a D man and not a replacement forward. We must utilise our remaining Brits to step up in Hilly's position and a new D man to bolster our present sieve like defence in order to offer decent protection to LaCosta.
Gutted for him.
Think of the minutes this guy put in while we were short benched, think of the big goals he has scored. Think of the effort he put in on and off the ice to improve himself.
he has a bit of a wobble over 12 months and there's the door.
In some ways i wonder if his previous high standards have been his undoing.
I just want this season written off already. And I've never said that
Think of the minutes this guy put in while we were short benched, think of the big goals he has scored. Think of the effort he put in on and off the ice to improve himself.
he has a bit of a wobble over 12 months and there's the door.
In some ways i wonder if his previous high standards have been his undoing.
I just want this season written off already. And I've never said that
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His replacement is fundamental... I will make my opinion on this decision then! I wish Phil Hill all the very best, yes his match presence has been lacking recently but he always put up the points... Good luck!
Curiously enough Steve Montador has just left his KHL club with his future destination unknown. Let's hope he calls into Cardiff on his way home and decides he likes it here. He could just be the missing piece of our hockey jigsaw.
I hope Phil Hill finds a new club soon and prospers. His points contribution will be hard to reproduce and largely went un-noticed which is a real shame. Because he was a big lad, most folk who post on here expected him to fight and displayed frustration that he didn't. He seemingly always popped up with a goal when we needed it despite his perceived shortcomings and I hope we don't end regretting this.
GO WELL PHILBO
I hope Phil Hill finds a new club soon and prospers. His points contribution will be hard to reproduce and largely went un-noticed which is a real shame. Because he was a big lad, most folk who post on here expected him to fight and displayed frustration that he didn't. He seemingly always popped up with a goal when we needed it despite his perceived shortcomings and I hope we don't end regretting this.
GO WELL PHILBO
Of course it is.
There's all these people with their own fanbases on twitter and facebook lining up to moan about Brent and Ragan but they're terrified of actually saying either name incase they lose whatever is in it for them at the moment.
If another player is released just wait for the hordes of people to jump on the bandwagon and have a moan about the 'management' without actually saying anything.
They're all happy to say something to their friends, on twitter or on here but would they actually name names on here? Would they balls.
There's all these people with their own fanbases on twitter and facebook lining up to moan about Brent and Ragan but they're terrified of actually saying either name incase they lose whatever is in it for them at the moment.
If another player is released just wait for the hordes of people to jump on the bandwagon and have a moan about the 'management' without actually saying anything.
They're all happy to say something to their friends, on twitter or on here but would they actually name names on here? Would they balls.
My 10 pense worth....
Not the biggest hilly fan. His size totaly preceeds him.... yes, he has had points... and alot of them. But when your on a line with stuart mcrae I think even i could get 30 points!!! Being a player he is expected to do a job. If he doesnt do this then he is liable for his own actions.... morrissette is a better replacment going forward IMO. Move g now to bench/scratch. Get a stay at home D man in. That can assist marsh and smith in being our all important core of D.
I wish him luck and I fully expect hime to be a steeler by this weekend.
Not the biggest hilly fan. His size totaly preceeds him.... yes, he has had points... and alot of them. But when your on a line with stuart mcrae I think even i could get 30 points!!! Being a player he is expected to do a job. If he doesnt do this then he is liable for his own actions.... morrissette is a better replacment going forward IMO. Move g now to bench/scratch. Get a stay at home D man in. That can assist marsh and smith in being our all important core of D.
I wish him luck and I fully expect hime to be a steeler by this weekend.