Blaze v Giants Tonight
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Far too many people blaming the ref and not our total lack of discipline at some ends. Every player in the league knows you can't talk to Carson in a disrespectful way, let alone call him a f*****g embarrassment at a volume so high I heard it from behind the glass at the opposite end of the rink. Leeb lost it and some Blaze players stood back and watched as he went nuts instead of hauling him into the box to calm down. He's one of the best players to ever wear the jersey and can do nothing from the dressing room!
Olson had already had two fights. It doesn't matter a jot if his 'second fight' was not actually a fight (barely a 2 min roughing call). The fact is he'd served two 5 minute fighting majors already. Keefe had him hook, line and sinker. No problem with what Egener or Hirsch did - both did what they had to do and accepted their penalties. Leeb and Olson should have known better.
Carson wasn't all that bad for me. He missed the initial slash on Leeb but it was off the play. While Stewart was pounding on Chalmers, Carson was halfway up the ice and would likely not have seen it very well if at all. Stewart may well get a match ban if the incident is reviewed but it won't affect us now. The fact is that he tossed the goalie, star forward, 2nd D-man and tough guy at home against the league champions causing us to lose the game. He was never going to be popular but it doesn't make him wrong.
Olson had already had two fights. It doesn't matter a jot if his 'second fight' was not actually a fight (barely a 2 min roughing call). The fact is he'd served two 5 minute fighting majors already. Keefe had him hook, line and sinker. No problem with what Egener or Hirsch did - both did what they had to do and accepted their penalties. Leeb and Olson should have known better.
Carson wasn't all that bad for me. He missed the initial slash on Leeb but it was off the play. While Stewart was pounding on Chalmers, Carson was halfway up the ice and would likely not have seen it very well if at all. Stewart may well get a match ban if the incident is reviewed but it won't affect us now. The fact is that he tossed the goalie, star forward, 2nd D-man and tough guy at home against the league champions causing us to lose the game. He was never going to be popular but it doesn't make him wrong.
Wasn't a dig at you mate...more that when the majority of the guys on the Inferno were complaining that everything stemmed from poor officiating we tended to get the "Yeah...the Ref missed them...go speak to him/them..not our problem"
You will also find that the majority here do/did not have an issue with the bans handed to the Cardiff players (although the one match, three match, no one match..no three match thing grated a bit).
As much as it annoys me to say it, given the rule book as it stands then there was not much else they could do.
Saying that....what we need is the EIHL to take a long look at their "rule" book when it comes down to bans being handed out following these kinds of incidents and an even longer and bigger look at the way the games are controlled by the stripeys.
They actually shouldn't hand out bans based on the evidence they have by video etc. if they don't actually have the full match video and therefore the full picture.
Doesn't the Toronto centre have the full videos of all the EIHL games?
Still though...really looking forward the next Devils v Blaze Game...hoping for a full house and a bit of retribution (within the rules of course )
You will also find that the majority here do/did not have an issue with the bans handed to the Cardiff players (although the one match, three match, no one match..no three match thing grated a bit).
As much as it annoys me to say it, given the rule book as it stands then there was not much else they could do.
Saying that....what we need is the EIHL to take a long look at their "rule" book when it comes down to bans being handed out following these kinds of incidents and an even longer and bigger look at the way the games are controlled by the stripeys.
They actually shouldn't hand out bans based on the evidence they have by video etc. if they don't actually have the full match video and therefore the full picture.
Doesn't the Toronto centre have the full videos of all the EIHL games?
Still though...really looking forward the next Devils v Blaze Game...hoping for a full house and a bit of retribution (within the rules of course
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Yes possibly, but did he? Pure speculation.
More of the same speculation huh? :roll:
Hang on, Carson called these penalties during the game, so I'm just wondering what the problem is? Last week Hicks and Darnell couldn't figure out how to call a cab let alone make the right calls during the game hence the shenanigans at the end. Or perhaps what got in the way of a repeat performance by Coventry was Carson doing his job and a Belfast team that was having none of it. :idea:
More of the same speculation huh? :roll:
Hang on, Carson called these penalties during the game, so I'm just wondering what the problem is? Last week Hicks and Darnell couldn't figure out how to call a cab let alone make the right calls during the game hence the shenanigans at the end. Or perhaps what got in the way of a repeat performance by Coventry was Carson doing his job and a Belfast team that was having none of it. :idea:
One little bolt on also. I can't see where it lands but Hirsch throws a punch with his blocker when he enters the fight. Now that carries an automatic match penalty for a blocker punch. So in theory Hirsch should have had a game misconduct third man in plus match for a punch with a blocker glove. If the EIHL call it as they should because Carson hasn't called it then its liable for supplemental discipline and I believe three games. Put money of a no show for that in the review.
7 mins of video highlights here:
http://www.u.tv/Sport/Giants-bounce-back-against-Coventry/ee1d44bc-4cdb-417b-86b1-4edb3ab95c1d
In all fairness, the fan camera phone video does make it look like Hirsch swings his blocker at the guy, but the video above shows its more a case of Hirsch grabbing the guy around the head with his blocker and catcher ( easier said than done ) and pulling him over rather than him belting the guy with it. He's still a douche bag mind you :roll:
http://www.u.tv/Sport/Giants-bounce-back-against-Coventry/ee1d44bc-4cdb-417b-86b1-4edb3ab95c1d
In all fairness, the fan camera phone video does make it look like Hirsch swings his blocker at the guy, but the video above shows its more a case of Hirsch grabbing the guy around the head with his blocker and catcher ( easier said than done ) and pulling him over rather than him belting the guy with it. He's still a douche bag mind you :roll:
J.B said:
Presumably it was recorded on the same video which has Olson butt-ending Max
No chance at all.
Or, maybe, the other thing:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pZRjyyT3u2w
