I certainly don't see this club as trying to rip me off. I do have a right to question value though. That's where it starts and ends for me. If it's not good value, I don't buy it. Certainly nothing to do with being ripped off. There's a hike. I wanted to try and understand why. People have positively contributed to the discussion, others haven't. It's the usual behaviour of a forum. No big deal.