DOPs

Discussion in 'Cardiff Devils & EIHL chat' started by StevenBletsoe, Oct 27, 2017.

  1. pjj365

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    Very valid comment re Dr S

    Nevertheless there are plenty of practicing sports lawyers out there. Indeed there are specialist practices. So succession should not be an issue

    Money on the other hand might well be as I doubt anyone else would undertake this role free of charge
     
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    If we can id stick with the temporary arrangement.
     
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    How about making new referees or Linos upgrading serve a period of time on DOPs panel giving them the benefit of hindsight and slo mo replays to consider decisions and also give them experience before being let loose to mess up real games, Hogarth comes to mind here
     
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    I agree with Ocko completely. Formers players and current refs are the only way an incident can be fully understood.


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  5. Vic

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    For those interested. I spoke to The Biscuit podcast yesterday regarding this incident and the EIHL more generally.
    When you explain the governance of the EIHL to someone not familiar with the league, the issues of ownership and of DOPS become more laughable.

    https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/the-biscuit/id1187056766?mt=2&i=1000394150587

    With regards to earlier discussions on this thread. I'd be very happy to see an impartial and transparent DOPS that didn't involve me. My day job and writing my publications keep me pretty busy as it is but I'd also be willing to help out in any way to help make the league a safer place for players.
     
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  6. pjj365

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    The guys on Post2Post were alternating between incredulity and amusement
     
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  9. pjj365

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    With this kind of detailed viewing players will no doubt think twice about actions going forward
     
  10. Outsider

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    I couldn't agree more, with all due respect to the Dr, she or any other doctor should not be on any DOPS committee. Having a former player is a good idea but would the league pay for a person to be the sole Judge and jury ? And having more than 1 person deciding on any suspensions is far too many . Having Lyle Seitz doing on a full time basis , if possible is a great idea. He certainly has the experience at the highest level ( the NHL) and most importantly has no bias with any team. How this league doesn't have a president or commissioner is beyond believe and how Fretter was initially given a 1 game ban doesn't pass any smell test . If Seitz did the work on the Robinson suspension , you can easily see the difference in the explanation that he gives vs Kirkham . Thing is, is this temporary or permanent ?
     
  11. pjj365

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    Not sure that Seitz is working alone
     
  12. James

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    http://www.eliteleague.co.uk/view/eliteicehockey/latest-news/news_495711
    Great news, both that the current DOPS will continue as is for the foreseeable, but also that the 4 man system will come back from January. The recent DOPS updates have been like night and day compared to the old ones. Clear, concise and not throwing any Refs under the bus either.
    In addition they are going to be reviewing all +5s and any body contact that results in injury.
     
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  13. Outsider

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    I agree with you, finally seem to have some professionalism in the DOPS. As I mentioned in my thread above a couple of weeks ago and you touched on it, the difference in any explanation we now receive vs the old way is night and day. The one thing that's concerning to me is looking at any body contact that results in an injury. That's a very slippery slope
     
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    With the old set up I'd agree with you but I can't see an injury through the normal course of play being penalised by the new set up.
     

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