Prehaps my post should read "recent history" or "Lord era"
"Adams, Batch,Bowns,Darling, Finnerty, Richardson, Ware, Campbell,Jarvis,Matulik,Moore, Hervato, Doucet, Faryna, and Myers" - i'll try break this down a little bit, seeing as i have time to
Gerad Adams - we signed him for his 5th season in the league. Both of the guys we are talking about are fresh meat and one good year hardly means their jerseys are going to be in the rafters.
Josh Batch - We signed Josh batch from the now dissolved Empire Junior Hockey League, he had never played in the EIHL prior to playing for us.
Ben Bowns - I'll concede this one, we took a punt on a prospect and it paid out.
Dion Darling - I wasn't a fan of the Devils during his spell with us, but looking at Elite Prospects he played a season & 13 games for us, and blew the league away with 6 goals, 4 fights (according to DYG). Again i can't comment on what he brought as i wasn't there
Ryan Finnerty - 4th year EIHL player when he reached us.
Mark Richardson - 3 years prior with Bracknell in the BNL, but from what i can see we were his first EIHL club(?) probably wrong here but i'm going to take a punt and say Bracknell did not make the jump up to the new EIHL, so Richie signed with a 'top flight team' after the BNL ceased to exist & Bracknell went to EPIHL.
Mike Ware - again wasn't a fan back when he played so all speculation - but a 4th year player when he reached us
Derek Campbell - he played 27 games for us, don't see this as a triumph personally(?)
Wes Jarvis - probably my favourite D man for the Devils. A valid point made.
Craig Moore - a 3rd year player, but we've only seen him 11 times, so can't comment properly.
Zach Hervato - an 'ok' player for what he was needed. Poor mans Tylor Michel, but did a job for us i guess.
Guilluame Doucet - 3rd year player, but again, an exception to what i said, quality player.
Justin Faryna - He's been alot better in recent games than at the start of the year. Still feel like i'm waiting for the guy who beasted us constantly at Dundee to come, but if I hadn't seen him play previously i'd be impressed with his play, so no complaints & hopefully stays around a while longer. But 2 years in the league already before reaching us.
Matty Myers - He played for Cardiff in the EIHL before anyone else, so not sure how he makes this list.
Ackered and vallerand are undoubtedly quality players, but I only seeing flashes of them once a month. May be a different story in the big boy conference.
Out of interest, are there many players for the 'big' teams in the EIHL that have been total flops after productive years in the other teams?
Ps. to answer your question, yes i could talk about hockey all day
"Adams, Batch,Bowns,Darling, Finnerty, Richardson, Ware, Campbell,Jarvis,Matulik,Moore, Hervato, Doucet, Faryna, and Myers" - i'll try break this down a little bit, seeing as i have time to
Gerad Adams - we signed him for his 5th season in the league. Both of the guys we are talking about are fresh meat and one good year hardly means their jerseys are going to be in the rafters.
Josh Batch - We signed Josh batch from the now dissolved Empire Junior Hockey League, he had never played in the EIHL prior to playing for us.
Ben Bowns - I'll concede this one, we took a punt on a prospect and it paid out.
Dion Darling - I wasn't a fan of the Devils during his spell with us, but looking at Elite Prospects he played a season & 13 games for us, and blew the league away with 6 goals, 4 fights (according to DYG). Again i can't comment on what he brought as i wasn't there
Ryan Finnerty - 4th year EIHL player when he reached us.
Mark Richardson - 3 years prior with Bracknell in the BNL, but from what i can see we were his first EIHL club(?) probably wrong here but i'm going to take a punt and say Bracknell did not make the jump up to the new EIHL, so Richie signed with a 'top flight team' after the BNL ceased to exist & Bracknell went to EPIHL.
Mike Ware - again wasn't a fan back when he played so all speculation - but a 4th year player when he reached us
Derek Campbell - he played 27 games for us, don't see this as a triumph personally(?)
Wes Jarvis - probably my favourite D man for the Devils. A valid point made.
Craig Moore - a 3rd year player, but we've only seen him 11 times, so can't comment properly.
Zach Hervato - an 'ok' player for what he was needed. Poor mans Tylor Michel, but did a job for us i guess.
Guilluame Doucet - 3rd year player, but again, an exception to what i said, quality player.
Justin Faryna - He's been alot better in recent games than at the start of the year. Still feel like i'm waiting for the guy who beasted us constantly at Dundee to come, but if I hadn't seen him play previously i'd be impressed with his play, so no complaints & hopefully stays around a while longer. But 2 years in the league already before reaching us.
Matty Myers - He played for Cardiff in the EIHL before anyone else, so not sure how he makes this list.
Ackered and vallerand are undoubtedly quality players, but I only seeing flashes of them once a month. May be a different story in the big boy conference.
Out of interest, are there many players for the 'big' teams in the EIHL that have been total flops after productive years in the other teams?
Ps. to answer your question, yes i could talk about hockey all day
Just to add discussion onto this - i'm not disagreeing with your facts
Ackered is logging absolutely insane minutes for Guildford, i'd expect a good points return for a player that seemed to spend full 2 minutes of almost every powerplay taking shots.
Ackered has 14 goals, 33 assists for 47 points in 36 games (insane...)
HOWEVER -
He also has 10 of those goals on the Powerplay and 20 assists on the powerplay. Effectively 30 out of his 47 points are on the powerplay!!!!!!
Add in his 2 short handed points (1g, 1a)
This means in 33 games he's "only" produced 15 points at even strength. - 3 goals and 12 assists...
Andrew Hotham - 35 games, 13 Goals, 26 assists.
17 of those points are powerplay points (6 goals 11 assists)
1 points is shorthanded (assist)
Meaning of Hotham's 39 points, 21 of them are at even strength (7 Goals, 14 assists)
-also remembering the 'weaker conference' factor for Guildford. We play more tougher games than they do.
give me Hotham 100 times over please.
I was not expecting that when i started looking deeper into it.
Ackered is logging absolutely insane minutes for Guildford, i'd expect a good points return for a player that seemed to spend full 2 minutes of almost every powerplay taking shots.
Ackered has 14 goals, 33 assists for 47 points in 36 games (insane...)
HOWEVER -
He also has 10 of those goals on the Powerplay and 20 assists on the powerplay. Effectively 30 out of his 47 points are on the powerplay!!!!!!
Add in his 2 short handed points (1g, 1a)
This means in 33 games he's "only" produced 15 points at even strength. - 3 goals and 12 assists...
Andrew Hotham - 35 games, 13 Goals, 26 assists.
17 of those points are powerplay points (6 goals 11 assists)
1 points is shorthanded (assist)
Meaning of Hotham's 39 points, 21 of them are at even strength (7 Goals, 14 assists)
-also remembering the 'weaker conference' factor for Guildford. We play more tougher games than they do.
give me Hotham 100 times over please.
I was not expecting that when i started looking deeper into it.
It's merely a simple metric to illustrate that when recruiting players total points is close to irrelevant.
If we were to sign Ackered, his points production wouldn't be close to what it is now - we have the number one powerplay in the league by an absolute landslide (29.68% is unheard of) so Ackered wouldn't get a look in ahead of Hotham, and probably not Fournier on the other line either.
Who said we were getting rid of Hotham? confused...
If we were to sign Ackered, his points production wouldn't be close to what it is now - we have the number one powerplay in the league by an absolute landslide (29.68% is unheard of) so Ackered wouldn't get a look in ahead of Hotham, and probably not Fournier on the other line either.
Who said we were getting rid of Hotham? confused...
Actually, that could also have been said about several past Devils' players who were signed from other EIHL clubs....and had disappointing seasons at the Devils.
It doesn't always follow that those skills and production transfer to another team. Injuries, illness, change of coaching, chemistry with team mates, general happiness at new club are just some influencing factors.
It doesn't always follow that those skills and production transfer to another team. Injuries, illness, change of coaching, chemistry with team mates, general happiness at new club are just some influencing factors.
Prehaps my post should read "recent history" or "Lord era"
Mark Richardson - 3 years prior with Bracknell in the BNL, but from what i can see we were his first EIHL club(?) probably wrong here but i'm going to take a punt and say Bracknell did not make the jump up to the new EIHL, so Richie signed with a 'top flight team' after the BNL ceased to exist & Bracknell went to EPIHL.
Matty Myers - He played for Cardiff in the EIHL before anyone else, so not sure how he makes this list.
But of interest, are there many players for the 'big' teams in the EIHL that have been total flops after productive years in the other teams?
Ps. to answer your question, yes i could talk about hockey all day
Mark Richardson - 3 years prior with Bracknell in the BNL, but from what i can see we were his first EIHL club(?) probably wrong here but i'm going to take a punt and say Bracknell did not make the jump up to the new EIHL, so Richie signed with a 'top flight team' after the BNL ceased to exist & Bracknell went to EPIHL.
Matty Myers - He played for Cardiff in the EIHL before anyone else, so not sure how he makes this list.
But of interest, are there many players for the 'big' teams in the EIHL that have been total flops after productive years in the other teams?
Ps. to answer your question, yes i could talk about hockey all day
Matty Myers went from Cardiff to Nottingham and then back to us.
Quite a few players have come back as a disappointment . One that springs to mind is Jeff Ulmer. He played for us for a few games in ISL days before leaving. Brilliant player. Went to Braehead i think last season and was released. Totally different player.
he did 2 seasons with us 05/06 & 06/07 before joining Nottingham 07/08
Basingstoke in the EIHL went under, Richie was a forward who needed a club and the only team to offer him a deal was the Panthers - but as a D man. The rest is history and he's been a D man ever since.
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How lucky for us was that, In 10 yrs time I can see Ritchie’s shirt in the rafters, this young man really is Mr Dependable. Love watching him play, smooth as velvet one true professional, Every team is this league would give a arm and a leg for a Ritchie. Actually Ocko Ritchie was with Nottingham before Basingstoke
Nottingham 07/08 08/09 77 league games
Basingstoke 08/09. 17 league games
416 league games for Cardiff so far, look forward to the next 416.
Nottingham 07/08 08/09 77 league games
Basingstoke 08/09. 17 league games
416 league games for Cardiff so far, look forward to the next 416.