Well I have been going since game one, 31 yrs actually so I ain't no less experienced fan, and I quite enjoyed long periods of last nights game, yes we ain't physical enough, and that's a drag as physical hockey was what I was brought up on, but we were 5 secs away from beating a very good tough team, and that's fact. I certainly don't like to see my team bullied as that sucks. We sure ain't in a good place at the moment, and our club must know that, and our off ice team are winners for sure. Now we kicked arse in 3/4 of last seasons cups, but that don't give us a god given right to do that again, we play like total crap at times, as do Steelers, Panthers, Giants and the rest of them. I ain't in the market for defending a team that frustrate the shit out off us at times, but bigger clubs than us suck at times. Entertaining games for me are paramount over everything else, winning trophies are a pure joy for sure, at the moment things are certainly not right that's obvious to anyone with a brain cell, and a .6 winning % ain't what we are all about. This is just my take on things, and certainly won't be others opinion, but if we had won last night and taken a 4 point weekend, that wouldn't have made things hunky- dory, but would have gone some way to saying we are still in the mix, and believe me ( or not ) we are still in the mix. I am frustrated as much as anyone on here, but our latest history shows that when we are down we turn it around. I would like someone to say who are heads and shoulders above us, Panthers slightly better possibly, Giants probably on par with us, we beat them convincingly at theirs, Steelers a huge not, Storm no way, Clan suck, Fife good but that's it good, Blaze well their fans are not happy bunnies, and the clubs not yet mentioned are respectively not ripping the league up, and that's no disrespect to them, as they are capable of beating anyone. So getting back to us, as we are all that matters, we need improvement everyone knows that, but we certainly don't suck, I have watched quite a few Devils teams that did, and were pretty dire to watch, but never improved, this team will, we may not win this trophy or that trophy but we will be there at the end, of that I am certain. So is it time to slit wrists, commit Harry Carry, or throw ourselves into the Taff, not yet folks, lots of hockey still to play, and we are their right in the mix. For those that see it differently, we all have our opinions, and they are all valid.